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the artists to finance their own work. This   Q. And yet I sometimes have an uneasy feel-
                                               just means that when one of them needed    ing that the boom in the German art world
                                               money he came to me and I tried to stop the   might be a very short-lived phenomenon. We
                                               gap. There were never any contracts. A con-  had a boom in the Rhineland just after the
                                               tract is just a piece of paper; if the dealer   war, linked with artists like Bruning, Gaul,
                                               stops being any good, the contract doesn't   Kricke and Götz. But it didn't last.
                                               help, and if the artist's work falls off it still   A. The great centre of Tachism that existed
                                               doesn't help. Now, after many years of diffi-  in the Rhineland in the late 1950s came into
                                               culties, it looks as if the artists can live off their   being thanks to the initiative of one man, the
                                               work. They are financially pretty well inde-  dealer Jean-Pierre Wilhelm. But what is hap-
                                               pendent of me, aside from certain large pro-  pening now no longer rests on the shoulders of
                                               jects: when Lenk, for instance, wants to put   one man; it depends on a number of different
                                               together his contribution for the Venice Bien-  gallery-owners. We shouldn't forget the
                                               nale, he needs financing, and gets it from me.   museums, either, of which there are many, not
                                               Q. Last year, your artists had a lot of suc-  to speak of the area's improved economic
                                               cesses: Hauser won the Grand Prix at Sao   position. Last but not least, Germany has after
                                               Paulo, Wintersberger had an award at the   all now become a country that is taken seri-
                                               Bienale des Jeunes in Paris, and Lenk and   ously by the rest of the world. After being in
                                               Pfahler are due to represent Germany in    the Rhineland for just four months, I can only
                                                                                          say that many foreign collectors and dealers
                                                                                          come here and follow with great interest the
                                                                                         art that is being produced in Germany.
                                                                                         Q. But is it really German art that interests
                                                                                          them? The offerings of most galleries suggest
                                                                                          that Cologne is becoming a major centre for
                                                                                          international art, but hardly for German art.
                                                                                          The dealers have an inferiority complex that
                                                                                          is not so much artistic as political.
                                                                                         A. I would say that there is nothing wrong
                                                                                          with being international. It is an entirely
                                                                                          right and proper policy for a gallery to have.
                                                                                          The only bad thing is that a lot of my col-
                                                                                          leagues have a tendency to put German art
                                                                                          automatically in an inferior position. I have
                                                                                          never accepted this. I believe that German
     began to think about how to talk to these   Venice this summer. Do you attribute this   artists—and this has recently been shown more
     400,000, how art should be presented to them.   solely to the quality of the artists concerned,   convincingly than ever—are perfectly able to
     But it's not a simple matter. You can't just   or has the policy of your gallery had some-  hold their own in international terms. After
     take space in large circulation dailies and ad-  thing to do with it? How far do you think an   the war there were a lot of resentments to be
     vertise inexpensive prints. These potential   artistic judgement is subject to manipulation?   overcome; but the situation at present seems
     clients need to be approached in just the same   A. Obviously the work of the artist is the   altogether hopeful. Sooner or later German
     individual way as the clients and collectors we   decisive factor. But it is true that the cachet of   dealers will have no choice but to concern
     already have; with slides, prospectuses, per-  a certain gallery does act as a further guaran-  themselves with German art. Everyone knows
     sonal letters. All the attempts that have been   tee of quality. Artists who exhibit with Sidney   that the French have shown virtually nothing
     made so far just reach those who already go to   Janis or Castelli automatically rank one step   but French art, that the English deal primarily
     galleries and museums. But we did not want   higher, and I hope that it constitutes some sort   with English art, and that the Americans also
     that. We wanted to open up an entirely new   of indication of quality if an artist exhibits at   represent their own artists. We ought to have
     market.                                   the Galerie Muller. I am naturally gratified   enough self-confidence to stand up for Ger-
     The 'Art-Inc.' idea hasn't yet come to fruition,   that my artists have finally received the recog-  man art.
     purely because we lack the necessary finance.   nition that they have always deserved. But it   Q. Self-confidence, yes, but just how far
     The extensive direct mail activity we would   must be said that German artists have not in   should national self-absorption be allowed to
     have to undertake would demand an amount   in the past received nearly as many of these   go ? As far as it has in America ?
     of capital which no gallery could possibly   prizes and distinctions as the Americans have.   A. We mustn't fall into the same error as the
     afford. Without an enormous initial invest-  In this country we lack the background con-  French dealers did when they became so
     ment the undertaking would be doomed to   ditions for a rational official policy on art;   arrogant and chauvinistic that they refused
     failure.                                  England might well be an example to us. We   to show people like Pollock, Rothko and New-
     Q. A dealer cannot of course direct all his   dealers are always accused of intriguing and   man in Paris. The Americans then had no
     attention outwards towards his clients. It's a   horse-trading, and this I simply cannot   choice but to entrench themselves in defence
     central fact of this business that the responsi-  accept. Instead of making rational and objec-  of their own art. And now the Americans seem
     bility 'inwards', toward the artist, is almost as   tive judgements on these things people put all   to be committing the same mistake; they
     great as the other. What is your relationship   the blame on management, as if management   exhibit only American artists. I read an article
     with the artists you represent?           were a personification of evil....         by Henry Geldzahler recently in which he set
     A. Ten years ago I said that the whole thing   I think we ought to be grateful that there are   out to list the contemporary artists whose
     was a 'survival club'. We had no buyers, no   now German artists—and I don't mean only   reputations are most likely to survive. There
     collectors, no sympathizers; we were on our   the artists of my gallery but also people like   are forty names, and every one of them is an
     own. In those days I still ran an advertising   Uecker, Beuys or Klapheck—who are valued   American. Leaving German artists out of it for
     agency. All I set out to do was to try to enable    in the international art market.   a moment, what has happened to the English
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