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Chris Orr in                             in 1900. It purported to survey rural customs and   by an actor. I love the conventional theatre as a
                                                                                          building, as an audience or as actors, especially
                                               practices in a series of photographs. I used some
      conversation                             of the customs as a basis for some prints, but   when one glimpses them through a half closed
                                                                                          door on the way into the theatre. Quite often I
                                               actually drawing them on to the plates a number
     with                                      of other ideas came to me so the original notion   don't find the plays live up to the excitement
                                               became more submerged. The two characters
                                                                                          the environment creates, the audience creates.
      Christopher Fox                          on the right in Drunken Bidford are all that is   The audience and the girls who sell programmes
                                               left of the original idea, the rest is a kind of
                                                                                          interest me. I tend to feel learning and
                                                French farce that has captivated the stage. It   enjoyment are accidental rather than something
                                               also became about a friend of mine who drinks   that could be rationally confronted. I suppose
                                               a lot, hence the dedication in the bottom left-  my attitude to painting is the same; I only have
                                               hand corner.                               a passing interest in painting as such. I always
                                               CF: One aspect of playfulness or humour is that   derive more excitement from the girl on the
                                               it treats everything uniformly and with equal   bookstall, the attendant and the painting or
                                               curiosity. And this sort of curiosity can reveal   drawing that is tucked away and forgotten. I
                                               something about our behaviour. Levi-Strauss   only see art really as a setting for human beings.
                                               has analysed how middle-class restaurants   I like people to buy my pictures to hang them on
                                               establish a silent respectability through their   their living-room wall; with luck they will be
                                               organization, manners and decor. Accordingly,   treated just as part of the furniture.
                                               all those entering feel compelled to conform to,   CF: When a print is ambiguous in content the
                                               and therefore reinforce, a sense of shared   ambiguity must rest within certain bounds.
                                               respectability. The theatre is similar in this   That's to say, the event enacted must be
                                               respect: everyone concentrates under dimmed   pregnant with possibilities for interpretation
                                               lights and is expected to behave the same.   but at the same time have an internal articulation
                                               You have caught the atmosphere of secluded   which registers against our normal assumptions.
                                               warmth of such a theatre and the items of   The ambiguity, in other words, addresses
                                               behaviour an audience can privately indulge   simultaneously our tendency to simplification
                                               —eating, caressing, boredom and self-      and suggests a more complex truth. Do you
                                               importance. They have their own drama.     agree with this notion—or does it strike you as
                                               Co:   Yes, it's a curious thing. I suppose I am as   misguided ?
                                                conformist as the next person with regard to   Co : I feel personally that for me ambiguity has
                                                my behaviour in a restaurant or theatre. When   to be within quite narrow bounds. I don't mean
     CHRISTOPHER FOR: Your work is concerned with   I come to draw these situations I create the   simple in nature, nor could I define the kind of
      exploring human relationships. More       environment, but within it my characters are   boundaries. I think the ambiguities in my
     specifically, they reveal a concern for the   very often defying the accepted conventions. I   images come spontaneously from a psychological
      everyday situation which is dramatically   don't deliberately plan this, it just happens. In   need of the moment to fix a feeling or idea. My
      charged, and for gestural absurdities, sexuality,   the Colysandra print My Play Performed   earlier work contained a lot of rather heavy-
      the failure of relationships. At the same time   people are shouting across the theatre whilst   handed sexual symbolism which I tend to reject
     the use of line resembles that of a cartoon and   the performance is in progress. It is as if some   now. I think it's possibly a new kind of ambiguity;
     adds a playfulness to a print's content. How does   subconscious anarchist was at work in me. I   perhaps any image that we remember or notice
      this apparent incongruity appear to you ?   often felt this when I was younger, the need to   particularly is one that is creating activity in
      CHRIS ORR: I suppose 'playfulness' to me is as   break the convention, defy the existing order   different meanings within our minds. I think
      important as those qualities or ideas that people   just for the sake of it. With people I tend to   what we have learnt we have in fact assimilated
      consider serious. I like the idea of playpower   search for their weaknesses or try to portray   into conviction, into stereotype. Uncertainty
      and of people living out their lives on the basis   their strengths as weaknesses. I want the   seems a kind of necessity to me. It makes me
      of apparently trivial fantasies. I'm sure we all   convention to exist in order that I can   very sceptical of the history of art. I want
      do it anyway; we are acting and playing to some   deliberately break it. I suppose I'm a kind of   something that has a clear understanding but
      degree, experimenting with a possibility. Work,   Walter Mitty, in reality steeped in suburban   at the same time floating and changing in
     sexuality, home are all mantles put on and to   middle-class values and having a fantasy world   meaning as the spectator changes. I want the
      which we harness a plethora of absurd rituals.   where those values are carefully contradicted.   spectator to absorb the image and turn it into
      In my work I suppose I'm setting up a stage in   I say carefully because I don't consider my   a myth of his own.
      which either existing absurdities are played out   assault on order to be at all random or for its   CF: Could you say when you found printmaking
      more fully or new conjunctions suggested. I   own sake; it works only as a fragment of   an activity of central importance to you. In
      think your phrase 'exploring human        absurdity in that relative situation. The idea of   what ways do you want to work with it in the
      relationships' implies a psychological depth and   shouting across the theatre is only absurd given   future ?
      intent that I don't have.                 the situation of the middle-class theatre and   Co: The short answer is never. I quite enjoy
      CF: The print Drunken Bidford shows a village   play—if it was a football ground nobody would   making prints; I know quite a lot about
      pub and road with everyone drunk. One man   bother twopence about it.               techniques and so on but I've always felt that
      falls over. A baker is dropping the bread. A car   CF: The other print emphasizes aspects of   if the situation changed I would never do
      races through the street causing a cat to run for   certain contemporary drama; it is not artificially   another print and be very happy. I do like the
      its life. But, like illustrations one saw as a child,   bounded, contrived and natural behaviour   relationship that printmaking implies with
     one does not believe a real accident will occur,   coincide. How much does theatre interest you   written narrative and I do like the qualities of
     and those that do can only be humorous.    generally ?                               line and detail that can be achieved, but that's
     Co:   Yes, I think I can show you the playfulness   Co: I'm very interested. I enjoy it, particularly   only the technical side necessary for the
      of my approach by describing how I came to   when something abnormal happens within   expression of my ideas. As a thing in itself,
      make that image. My brother gave me a book   theatrical form such as someone forgetting their   printmaking is only the same as knitting or
      called 'Sir Benjamin Stone's Pictures', produced    lines or a piece of scenery collapses or an ad-lib    marquetry to me. q
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