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students could also attend the free classes, and
      did so in increasing numbers, and
      compartmentalized thinking ceased. In 1969
      it became obvious that looking through a
      portfolio is no way of judging talent. To start
      with I and Dieter Rot stood alone: I will take   age of individuation, away from collective
      anyone who wants to come. His ability will be   groupings, self-determination is the central
      assessed over two trial semesters — three in   concept. But one should not lose sight of actual   The Beuys example
      difficult cases. In the old-style academy one   practice, daily coming into being under one's
      had to draw ears for three terms on end; in those   hands. My pedagogic and political categories
      days that was a short time, but today it is time   result from 'Fluxis'. To impose forms on the   At the start of the 1972/73 winter semester
      enough to show the beginnings of a personal   world around us is the beginning of a process   Joseph Beuys, for eleven years Professor of
      development. Assessment is carried out on   that continues into the political field.   Plastic Arts at the Düsseldorf Kunstakademie
      the job, but the students also assess themselves   Discussion used to centre on the participation   and by far the most popular art teacher in
      by reference to the ability of others, and 90%   of the public and it became apparent that   Germany, was dismissed without notice; soon
      of those who give up do so voluntarily —40 left   actionism as a sort of joint play was not enough;   afterwards he was even forbidden to teach. The
      of their own accord last semester. Only in a   the participant must also have something to   State wanted to make an example. To find out
      few cases do I have to give someone firm   contribute from the resources of his own   what sort of example involves a short look
      advice and say, 'in my opinion you won't   thought. A total work of art is only possible in   around the political scene.
      succeed at it'. He can then see if a colleague   the context of the whole of society. Everyone   The whole field of education and culture in
      will take him on, otherwise he leaves the   will be a necessary co-creator of a social   Germany is the responsibility of the Länder.
      Academy. This is not an underhand way of   architecture, and, so long as anyone cannot   Each of the eleven Länder that make up the
      getting round the numerus clausus.        participate, the ideal form of democracy has not   Federal Republic has a minister to deal with
      Gj: What are your criteria for dismissing   been reached. 'Whether people are artists,   cultural matters — many of them have two: a
      someone after two semesters?              assemblers of machines or nurses, it is a matter   minister of culture and a minister of education —
      ji3: Colour sense if someone is painting. Art   of participating in the whole. Art looks   while the competence of the central Federal
      can be learned, though a certain talent is a   more towards a field where sensitivity is   Ministry for Science is very restricted. Some
      prerequisite, but hard work is part of the   developed into an organ of cognition and hence   of the Länder are ruled by the SPD, others by
      process. Art comes from intelligence, one must   explores areas quite different from formal logic.   the CDU. Although the number of students
      have something to say, but on the other side,   I have to admit that only quite a small minority   to be expected in 1970 was known as long ago
      that of capability, one must be able to express   is still in a position to understand pictures. The   as 1962 the Länder were unable to agree on
      it. And then sense of proportion, of mass, of   times educate people to think in terms of   common action; the result has been
      form, and feel for symmetry. Of course this is   abstract concepts. At Documenta I   overflowing lecture-halls, too few teaching
      subjective, but no judgements can possibly be   found that most people think they have to   appointments and an ever increasing numerus
      made outside the terms of reference of the   comprehend art in intellectual terms — in many   clausus (quota system) of students unable to
      subject. Scientific objectivity cannot stretch   people the organs of sensory and emotional   follow the course of their choice. After the
      to objective judgements about art. Objective   experience have atrophied. Concepts must be   world-wide student upheavals of 1968 Willy
      judgements on art are not directly        elaborated which relate to this state of   Brandt's new government promised extensive
      rationalizable, but they are expressible; for   consciousness, so as to express quite different   educational reform. However, the Federal
      example, it may be that in a work overloaded   associations of force. Many people spoke of   authorities were unable to overcome the
      with content no overall formal coherence   mysticism. Basically, though, I am interested   resistance of the CDU-ruled Länder to the
      emerges. The pouring into form of streams of   in getting as far as talking of a picture of man   unitary higher education law they proposed,
      emotion that has not been thought out, the   that cannot be constrained by the prevailing   and the Federal Minister for Science had
      psychedelic belches that well up without being   scientific concepts. For this, man needs the   to back down.
      reflected upon and without being touched by the   Aesthetic Education. The isolated concept of   Most of the Länder — including Nordrhein-
      polarizing influence of form, these are a form of   art education must be done away with, and   Westfalen, of which Düsseldorf is the capital —
      illness, a sort of cancerous psychical tumour.   the artistic element must be embodied in every   issued their own higher education laws instead.
      Then one goes on to the therapy: don't take   subject, whether it is our mother tongue,   But on the one hand the largely conservative
      what boils up inside you so seriously, grasp   geography, mathematics or gymnastics. I am   teaching staffs showed themselves unwilling
      something real outside, so that everything   pleading for a gradual realization that there is no   unilaterally to carry out reforms which would
      doesn't stick in a state of chaos. Or this   other way except that people should be   undermine their professorial privileges; on
      widespread infinity symbol, you can make that   artistically educated. This artistic education   the other the demands of the students were
      snake-like thing as long as a street and it will   alone provides a sound base for an efficient   too radical for the taste of the ministeries of the
      never be a finished thing with a specific   society. The achievements of our society are   Länder, leading to the fear that large numbers
      expressive meaning. If such faulty attitudes   channeled and determined by power     of professors might depart elsewhere. The
      do not change then I must resign myself to   relationships. But it is not just a few who are   ministry of education therefore stepped in as
      having been wrong in that particular case, but   called to determine how the world will be   mediator. This meant in practice that the State
      in the great majority of cases it is clear that I   changed — but everyone. In a true democracy   now had a say in the affairs of universities
      cannot take the responsibility that the person   there are no other differences than capability;   which had been autonomous since the
      involved should fritter away his life any longer.   democracy can only develop freely when all   Romantic period. Initially this seemed to
      Gj: Why do you turn almost all your energy   restrictive mechanisms are gone. One of the   provide a remedy for the staff-student conflict,
      towards education and enlightenment?      greatest of these restrictive mechanisms is the   but the misuse of the State's powers of
      JB : It is the consequence of widening the   present-day school, because it does not develop   compulsion has since become apparent.
      concept of art. The 'Political Office' has   people but channels them.                 The reforms, not nearly as progressive as
      self-determination as its focus. And art has                                         had been expected, could not stem the
                                                Translated from the German by John Wheelwright
      the same focus. Every man is a plastic artist                                        avalanche of students. There were indeed new
      who must determine things for himself. In an    'Elaborated in detail in Studio International,   foundations, extensions to buildings, many
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