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after he died in 1929. It's a classic now and   We became more and more audacious and we   Catholic anarchist I would say. He was
     maybe in ioo years it will be read in the schools.   had public meetings in other places where we   interested in Bakunin and he went to an anarchist
     Then through a miracle, I cannot really describe   ridiculed the literature of the day, and then a   group in Zürich—I went there too, though I
     it, how our activity came to be called Dada—so   very famous event was when Ball wrote his first   usually nearly went to sleep as it was very
     this spontaneous aggressive activity which is the   sound poem `Gaggi Beni Bimba' which became   boring—Ball was very much interested in it. Of
     kernel of Dadaism came more and more to the   the beginning of a series of studies of sounds,   Lenin we heard very little—they say he once
     fore and all of a sudden we called ourselves   which is a part of the literary side of Dada that   went to the cabaret—I never saw him. I don't
     Dadaists, what we did Dadaism and the more   we tried to go into the origin of language and   know even how he looks.
     aggressive we became the more Dada also. That   sounds, especially Hausmann did that later in   Then Ball withdrew and I decided to continue
     was the beginning of Dadaism in Zurich. Ball   Berlin though I don't know what he did; he was   my study of medicine, going back to Germany.
     finally left the cabaret and we became more and   a rather cantankerous person and you never   My parents became old and they asked me to
     more audacious in literature. We were in a way   could touch him because he felt he did not get   come back to Germany and I decided to do so. I
     influenced by Futurism then—Tzara knew very   enough recognition. So I touched him several   left the cabaret, behind were Tzara and Ianko and
     much about modern literature and painting,   times and then I gave up. In my Fantastic   Arp, and a new man came called Hans Richter.
     much more than all of us did, and he talked to   Prayers which is my first book of poetry. I   They opened up a gallery in Zurich and
     us about Futurism and we started to read   started too, even before Ball, with sound poetry.   really made art. Here is the point I would
     Marinetti and saw the pictures of Boccioni and   The cabaret went bankrupt anyway, and one   like you to understand if you know a little bit of
     all these people. So it was a mixture of politics   day it had to close, but shortly before it closed   psychology—you know that I am a psychiatrist—
     and art what we did, but the real serious effort   Ball withdrew to southern Switzerland to   I have to say the following: we were full of
     was on the side of politics.              write. He was then already a kind of mystical    revolution, we were full of protest, not only
                                                                                         against the politics of the German Empire but
                                                                                         against the ordinary man, against progress,
                                                                                         against pollution, the growing pollution (the
                                                                                         word was not known at this time but we anti-
                                                                                         cipated it already) not only of water and air, but
                                                                                         the growing pollution of man as well, who
                                                                                         massed together with a rising buying rate and a
                                                                                         rising crime rate and less of humanity every day.
                                                                                           Now Ball withdrew to the southern part of
                                                                                         Switzerland as I said, and I went back to
                                                                                         Germany. Now, here is the point, our
                                                                                         spontaneity, our fury, our ire had to be
                                                                                         expressed somehow, so it came out, it's nearly a
                                                                                         tragedy or a comedy, that all the revolutionaries
                                                                                         in the Cabaret Voltaire were artists.
                                                                                           When we wanted really to express ourselves
                                                                                         the artistic powers of ours came to the fore and I
                                                                                         wrote poetry and novels and the other persons
                                                                                         started to paint. At this time I didn't paint yet.
                                                                                         I'm not a painter in the sense that I start at two
                                                                                         years or three to paint and then become a great
                                                                                         painter—I started when I liked it to express my
                                                                                         protest. I started to paint in 194o in New York.
                                                                                         I was already by then a successful psychiatrist—
                                                                                         think of that, a psychiatrist who starts to paint
                                                                                         revolutionary pictures. I didn't end up in an
                                                                                         institution either, in spite of all that I'm still very
                                                                                         reasonable.
                                                                                           There is another thing which is more and
                                                                                         more important; the more I joined this protest
                                                                                         the more I came back to something which has
                                                                                         been with me till this very day, this kind of belief
                                                                                         that the world can only hold together if it is
                                                                                         helped by a moral idea of freedom and
                                                                                         individuality. That has been following me all my
                                               5 Bookjacket for Phantastische Gebete — poems by
                                               Richard Huelsenbeck, drawings by George Grosz.   life, this basic idea, and I have tried to bring it
                                               Published by Der-Malik Verlag, Berlin, 192o.   together with my ideas of socialism and other
                                               6 Programme for a Dada evening, 1918.     things, but I finally always came back to the
                                                                                         idea that there is nothing worse than the
                                               7 Bookjacket for Dada Almanach, edited by Richard
                                               Huelsenbeck, published by E. Reiss Verlag, Berlin,   suppression of free expression of individuality.
                                               192o.                                     From there—as I couldn't express myself very
                                               8 Dada gathering in Weimar, 1922. From left to rig'   well in politics, I'm not a politician, I despise
                                               Schwitters, Arp, Max Burchartz, Frau Burchartz,   them in general— I thought what can I do for
                                               Hans Richter, Nelly van Doesburg, Cornelis van
                                               Eesteren, Theo van Doesburg, Peter Röhl, Frau   human beings, and the decisive point was when
                                               Röhl, Werner Graeff.                      I thought if I cannot help people in general as a
                                                                                         politician, to hell with it, try to help them
                                              9 Hans Arp with Richard Huelsenbeck on the
                                                                                         individually—and so I became a psychiatrist.
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