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Phillip  King






                                                                                  Q:  What do you feel about the idea of a single image
                                                                                  in sculpture, for example, as in  Giacometti?
                                                                                   The  single  image  approach  (very  central  to  many
                                                                                  American  painters  for  example,  Rothko,  Newman,
                                                                                  Stella,  Noland,  Reinhart,  Albers,  Gottlieb  to  name  a
                                                                                  few)  seems  very  foreign  to  all  of  the  Whitechapel
                                                                                  group of sculptors-is there any real reason for this?
                                                                                  A:  I am not interested in working in series because to
                                                                                  me a series implies a directed effort in only one direction,
                                                                                  with  the  result  that  one's  work  is  bound  to  reach  a
                                                                                  point of greater achievement at some time-this point
                                                                                  I want to achieve as soon as possible.  When  I  see the
                                                                                  way  ahead  I  have  already  been  there.  To  work  on
                                                                                  variations  would  seem  like  a  betrayal  of  the  original
                                                                                   Most  of  the  time  I  am  in  a  state  of  utter  confusion
                                                                                  as to what  I want to do next, in spite of the fact that
                                                                                  the same aesthetic concerns will be there, reviewed and
                                                                                  redefined  all  the time,  or  recreated into  new  relation­
                                                                                  ships.   Many  one  image  artists  (according  to  your
                                                                                  definition)  have  reduced  the  formal inventive  process
                                                                                  deliberately  holding  certain  values  above  all  else.  In
                                                                                  the  post-abstract  expressionists,  colour  becomes  the
                                                                                  direct spokesman for feeling.  Decisions about  shape
                                                                                  are  presuggested  by  given  limits  and  the  method  of
                                                                                  working.  Those pop artists are most admired who re­
                                                                                  create the urban imagery without change;  the meaning
                                                                                  of the art lies in the act of transposing.
                                                                                   The  terms  of  thinking  I  use  in  my  work  are  never
                                                                                  terribly defined.  Feeling, colour, surface, space, volume,
                                                                                  contour,  are  terms  I  tend  to  use  but  their  boundaries
                                                                                  remain blurred and their values are relative.
                                                                                   I  like  to  think  of  them  in  qualitative  terms.  At  the
                                                                                  back  of  my  mind  the  idea  that  these  terms  are  only
                                                                                  adopted for convenience never leaves me,  this allows
                                                                                  me greater freedom of movement in dealing with them.
                                                                                   If making art is involved with making decisions about
                                                                                  shapes and interpreting relationships of these decisions,
                                                                                  then to my mind they must open out in the end into a
                                                                                  meaningful order.
       Phi//1p Kmg              Phillip  King,  young  British  sculptor           Thoughts about meaning of shape and colour, in the
        Photographed  by  Graham  Kirk
                               working mainly  in  plastic,  answers  some        most  general  sense,  thoughts  about  formal  relation­
                               questions  by John  Coplans                        ships,  etc.,  are  ideas  that  form  the  basis  of  one's
                                                                                  aesthetic  attitude,  but  which  cannot  help  being
                                                                                  expressed  in  the  manufactured  object  in  particular
                                                                                  terms.  They reflect only indirectly the general concepts
                                                                                  through 'particularness' (Mondrian was very conscious
                                                                                  of  the  problem).  Perhaps  the  very  nature  of  being
                                                                                  means  'particularness.'  Similarly  (for me)  the general
                                                                                  characteristics  that  apply  to- imagery,  the  relations
                                                                                  between  form  and  emotions,  must  in  the  object  find
                                                                                  a particular expression.  So one moves from the general
                                                                                  to the particular and back to the general, in both form
                                                                                  and content.
                                                                                   The  preconceived  idea  for  a  work  of  mine  already
                                                                                  contains  elements  of  the particular,  so the process  of
                                                                                  actualizing  is  straightforward,  decisions  about  pro­
                                                                                  portion and position that occur during the making are
                                                                                  secondary.  I don't have to be involved at a fundamental
                                                                                  level  with deciding whether something should be half
                                                                                  an inch more this way or that way.  Sometimes however
                                                                                  the  idea may undergo  a  change  in  the  making  but  it
                                                                                  generally turns out to be a considerable one, changing
                                                                                  the meaning of the sculpture.

                                                                                  Q:  Are  you  concerned  with  material  as  a  thing  in
                                                                                  itself?  What  influence  has  material  on your shapes?
                                                                                  A:  I would say matter rather than material.  By that  I
                                                                                  mean  I  am  much  more  concerned  with  the  general
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